I don't really mind Ospreay giving a lot in matches against guys like Lio. He's more of a Ric Flair-type than a Hogan-type, same with Rollins, where they outpace and outlast their opponents, they don't run them over. And yeah I know that Flair wouldn't be giving THAT much to Tom Zenk or whomever, but it's the same principle.
Hogan gave opponents a ton, too, really. I mean I think it's just the modern style of it all for me that bugs me out a bit, where instead of just selling your ass off like Flair or Hogan or the like would, you've got Lio-level dudes kicking out of what should (IMO) be more protected stuff. But then I am also just being old about this. It has happened to meeeeeeeeee
I think the issue with Tony booking the women’s div right now, or the division writ large, is less the Toni-Mercedes feud (which was always bound to have problems IMO); but rather something a lot of folks have touched on….the rhythm he got into with the women’s division was the world title got a certain amount of time, helped by how over Toni is. And then the TBS title ALSO got time, because it was Mercedes
But now those two are in the same match, getting the same time to one another….and there’s really nothing else of consequence going on. Lot of folks have kinda fallen off by the wayside as a consequence of how he’s booked that division
There’s also the fact that Willow and Marina are involved in the Death Rider storyline, and it may be that “having women present and sometimes wrestling in a segment” counts for him as women’s division action in a way it doesn’t for many of us.
I don't really mind Ospreay giving a lot in matches against guys like Lio. He's more of a Ric Flair-type than a Hogan-type, same with Rollins, where they outpace and outlast their opponents, they don't run them over. And yeah I know that Flair wouldn't be giving THAT much to Tom Zenk or whomever, but it's the same principle.
Hogan gave opponents a ton, too, really. I mean I think it's just the modern style of it all for me that bugs me out a bit, where instead of just selling your ass off like Flair or Hogan or the like would, you've got Lio-level dudes kicking out of what should (IMO) be more protected stuff. But then I am also just being old about this. It has happened to meeeeeeeeee
Okay fair, and yeah Idk why I thought Hogan when you're right, he always sold a ton. Goldberg, I guess? Idk
I think the issue with Tony booking the women’s div right now, or the division writ large, is less the Toni-Mercedes feud (which was always bound to have problems IMO); but rather something a lot of folks have touched on….the rhythm he got into with the women’s division was the world title got a certain amount of time, helped by how over Toni is. And then the TBS title ALSO got time, because it was Mercedes
But now those two are in the same match, getting the same time to one another….and there’s really nothing else of consequence going on. Lot of folks have kinda fallen off by the wayside as a consequence of how he’s booked that division
There’s also the fact that Willow and Marina are involved in the Death Rider storyline, and it may be that “having women present and sometimes wrestling in a segment” counts for him as women’s division action in a way it doesn’t for many of us.
really fair read on the situation and adds up now that i look at it that way.